Episode 119 Social Engineering and Protecting Your Kids with Andrew Young
Former DreamWorks animator, Andrew Young, exposes how beloved animated films have become tools of social engineering, subtly shifting from character-driven stories to politically charged narratives that undermine family values and traditional storytelling. We trace Andrew’s journey from Hollywood success to cultural whistleblower as he reveals how the animation, media, & education industries now shape young minds and foster division through ideological agendas. The conversation culminates with Andrew’s advocacy to combat online child exploitation, highlighting the dangers of sextortion, Section 230, and the urgent need to protect children in the digital age. This episode is a must-listen for parents, educators, & creators determined to defend truth, creativity, and the hearts of the next generation.
Andrew Young is a former professional animator turned child advocate. He currently works for Porn Harms, a National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE) initiative to raise awareness of the public health harms of porn - exposing the connection between porn and all forms of sexual exploitation. Porn Harms/Research archives offer the most comprehensive look at available research on pornography. NCOSE Porn Harms engages the public and change policies with projects such as the Dirty Dozen list, the Safe Schools Safe Libraries initiative, and No Vacancy for Exploitation.
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00:00 - Janae Daniels (Host)
I am very excited to have Andrew Young on today, and, y'all, this is one that you don't want to miss. Andrew is a father of five, he is a husband and he's a former animator at DreamWorks, and so we're going to talk about his background as well as what he does now, because all of it are things that affect you and I and our kids, and so thank you, andrew, for coming on today. I really, really appreciate it.
00:27 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Yeah, you bet it's great to be here. Thanks for all y'all do.
00:30 - Janae Daniels (Host)
So let's start back, because you let's let's go back how you got into animation, and then I'd love to have you talk about what happened with the studio and share a little bit about social engineering, because I think for a lot of people that that's a new term that people haven't heard. And then I want to go into what you're doing now, because I think it's very, very important for us to know.
00:53 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Okay, I'm smiling because a lot has happened in like the last six months to two to three years and it's actually going to be kind of cool to tell you this because if you want to learn the story, this will be the easiest way. Sorry, I'm putting it together and it will make sense, but if you want to learn the story, basically my background is art, a scholarship, and then learned how to do animation at Brigham Young University, got offers from Disney, dreamworks, microsoft and several others and then went into the industry, found a lot of eye-opening, shocking things about the industry which, to condense it is, the industry is mostly beautiful and wonderful, like what you know about Walt Disney, what you know about the early creators. It's just like a really wholesome, wonderful thing, like from Bambi to Beauty and the Beast, to on what we make today, toy Story, how to Train your Dragon. But it has been very much linked up with politics. Indoctrination, messaging is the nice way to say it. Social engineering is what it really is, which is trying to push messages on families and kids to get them to accept things and not accept others. And I can explain it after that. But it's just bad. It's bad. You can call it propaganda, messaging, brainwashing, whatever. That's what we were doing, and so, anyways, if you want to hear the full story I've already told it several times you can find it on YouTube under the Quick Podcast, cwic podcast.
02:21
I told the whole story and everyone's comments. You can see the whole story from beginning to end, and a lot of the questions and what it is and how it works and all of that. But I actually would love to do on this is help all of you who are trying to educate your kids, even though I should be asking you for help. But I'd like to give you some of the background. But, more than anything that almost no one has is I would like to update you on what has happened since these podcasts have come out, because it really is miraculous, given what's just happened with Charlie Kirk and what's happened politically and what's happening socially and with the family and with religion, and now you can talk about it. Now, god is okay. Before you couldn't even say anything.
03:14 - Janae Daniels (Host)
Anyways, um, and before you get into that for those of you that want to hear the whole story, because that's actually how I heard the whole story and it's it's a good story, it's a detailed story. Um, and you can find that I'll put the link in the show notes for those of you who want to go back and watch that, but can you just give a quick, a quick brief synopsis? You said you saw ugly things. Can you describe what social engineering is?
03:38 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Okay, yeah, and it happens, and it happens everywhere, okay, and so I come from the movie industry, all right, and so I was in, I guess you could say, hollywood.
03:46
But the animation world of Hollywood, which is a combination of technology and computer coding and computer science with art. It's a little bit different than just holding a camera and like wearing a scarf and getting a being a director. You're very much a nerd and an artist together, okay, and so that's the side I come from. But it very much happens in Hollywood, normal movies that are filmed. It very much happens in music. It very much happens in several other types of messaging, like the journalism that you watch and even finance banking and all these other types of things. But what it is is you make characters in stories that people will hate, okay, or you make characters in stories that people will love, and then you have those characters do things that you want them to accept and that engineers a child to begin to adopt those beliefs or those practices or those messages. So we were doing anti-family, like anti-traditional family stuff, pro-solo, you know, anti-man, anti-masculine, anti-religion, heavy, heavy anti-religion. That's what got me out of it. In fact, we were making the villains quote the religious zealots who voted for Proposition 8. If you don't know what that is. It was around 2006 to 8, when marriage was on the ballot Can there be marriage between a man and a woman or anything else? And so that was basically the target, and so we were pushing that into the movies and we were pushing that into the narratives and making it acceptable.
05:25
And I go through tons of different examples across all studios. And the reason I do that is because I don't want you to target like a studio and be like these guys are bad, these guys, this is a bad studio. Actually, I'm not for. I'm not for like trying to hurt the studios. I'm trying to help families and I want to help the studios to not do this, because all it's doing is it's well, it's just ruining their own.
05:45
I mean, look at Hollywood today, look at movies today. I mean, no, no one cares, no one likes them. No, no, I mean we used to have movie we. We used to have movie stars, we used to have athletes, we used to have musicians like award shows, and everyone loved it and everyone thought they were great. Now, no one cares. Now the new hero is a conservative Christian. Can you believe how far we've come? That's the new hero. That's who people care about. We've got NFL football players kneeling supporting conservative Christians because they're the ones who have to go through all the crap today. They're the actual heroes. They're being persecuted daily. They're being silenced daily. Moms who are just trying to take care of their kids in homeschool are being like on social media. They're just being frowned upon, being bullied, being mean. I mean, you're the type of heroes that are out there now and people are finally realizing oh my gosh, all these other people have just been being told what to do and they're almost robotically just following whatever they're being told. They're not heroic at all. They're not like these amazing athletes or amazing like celebrities've really, we've really switched things, but anyways, that's where you can find the whole story on the quick media podcast.
06:50
And basically what happened is I got in there. I was working on wonderful movies like how to train oh, I'm sorry, mr Peabody and Sherman, that was one of the main ones Madagascar. So I would like do the lion's hair. You know, alex the lion lion, um, or Marty the zebra, or the penguins Y'all love the penguins and uh, disney wanted me to uh go and work on Rapunzel. That was what it was called at the time. It's one of the worst mistakes I've ever made was, uh, not going and doing uh Rapunzel's hair for tangle. That was what. That's how I got into the industry.
07:21
So if people ask me all the time, how do I get into the industry, how does my child work at Pixar or Disney or anything, even though they're terrible jobs right now. So it's better to do it on your own. And AI is changing everything, but I'll get to that later. But they always ask how do I get my child to work on it? Well, you got to learn how to do something that's really hard to do and that the studios need in the video game industry or the animation or the movie industry. So in that, in that that time it was hair, hair and cloth.
07:45
It was very hard to do technologically and so I was really good at it. So I had offers all over the place and I got in. I love doing it. I love the people.
07:52
The people that are the most creative geniuses. They're from Taiwan, they're from all over the East coast, they're from Europe, they're from London, they've got a big head, they've got a lot from the Middle East. We all come together and you've got the greatest talent, the greatest artists, and you create these masterpieces of technological art. It's where Leonardo da Vinci would be working today if he was working, because you need invention, you need technology, you need art, and it was really great.
08:16
We had the greatest time and I still love them all and I still respect them, even all the way up to the CEOs. Even though we're very politically different and very religiously different, we still got along because we had a craft that we all celebrated and we all worked hard. Well, what happened is political ideology and brainwashing or social engineering, took over the stories and started ruining them, because we were now making characters, not to make a great character that would overcome an obstacle or have some archetypal uh storyline, but we were making characters that would try to promote a message that was political or a message that was social, like the ones I was just talking about anti-family, anti-religion, um, anti-conservative, anti-capitalist. So we were hitting on these and then we were promoting uh lgbtq.
09:01
We were promoting and this is not news now, when I first did the podcast, people were like what this is happening? This is like three, two and a half years ago now. Everyone knows disney has admitted it, all right, all the way up to the ceo. Bob eiger has admitted the messaging in the earnings calls in multiple reports. So I'm like, oh my gosh. I like when I first started doing this, I was worried about getting sued, and it was such a relief that now they have all admitted it. Yes, we're doing it. Yes, it's a problem, and we're they. They never apologized, though, which is which is really really awful.
09:35
And, uh, in my story, I told them, guys at DreamWorks, I was like we got to stop doing this, like, and they were like, no, no, no, like what would keep you? I was like I'm not going to do this anymore, I got to go. And they were like, no, no, no, like what would keep you? I was like I'm not going to do this anymore, I gotta go. And they're like what would keep you here? And I said, well, let's tell people what we're doing, okay, because they've got to know that we are engineering their children. Um, let's, so let's tell people we're doing, or let's take it out.
09:57
And the response is well, we can't tell people what we're doing, or they'd be furious yeah, no kidding, yeah, yeah, well, here we here, we are here, we are Everyone's furious now and boy has Disney had a slap in the face, and so have all the other studios and, to be honest, the people who have suffered the most. If there's some sort of empathy or I know you're all very mature listening to this and you're all very, like, very forgiving we should know that, like that, the people who are going through the worst time right now are not you. You are strong, you take care of your kids, you're smart. It is the people working at these studios and the studios themselves and the industry itself. It is fracturing. It has never been in a worse situation and if there's anything more benevolently you could do right now is try to pick them back up as benevolently as you can and try to say, hey look, we know you sold your soul. I mean, that's as nice as you can do. We, we know you sold out, okay, but we want to help pick you back up. How do you do that? You support the movies that are doing well, like, like, uh, like the chosen, like it's amazing, or some of these other animations that are coming out. Or it doesn't even have to be a religious movie, it can be, like you know, even a movie that has good morals or good beneficial nutrition, mental nutrition, that still has that Like, maybe Top Gun 2. It has patriotism and it has still good heroic morals, it has family values I'd say modest ones. So we're still not there at making really, really high-quality media that benefits the culture and the people. And clearly there's still a huge dark, dark area of creation that is just completely destructive and chaotic, that is still there and needs to stop.
11:48
Even while I was in the industry, I was just like to the groups that were doing this. They would always ask me to work on horror films. I just guys, wrong guy, but it's always just like guys. What are you doing With the amount of money we're putting into these, the amount of time and the amount of talent? Why are you doing this? Anyways, that's a side note. So, anyways, we're getting into the stage in movies at DreamWorks where we're doing this. I tell them we can't do this and I say we got to tell them or we got to take it out. And they say we're not going to tell them or it's going to make them furious.
12:37 - Janae Daniels (Host)
Well then we got to take it out and they say entire story.
12:38 - Andrew Young (Guest)
I try to tell it in every podcast and I always try to tell now that you've got to watch out for your kids' DMs because that's the most dangerous thing for your children. This is just mental. What I'm talking about Real danger is your children's social media and DMs, and I'll talk about that later, because that's what I do now. Yeah, so I told him, I said look, I paused and said wait what? Only if the audience gets mad would we change something. And what it really revealed to me is that you have all control. You have all power. All you have to do is stop going to a movie and stop paying for it. They listen so quick. They're already changing. They're already changing because you have stopped going to Disneyland, you have stopped going to DreamWorks movies, you have stopped going to the Minions or not so much that, but other movies. You have stopped paying them. And just so you know they are a very, very low margin industry. They need your money so hard.
13:15
If you knew how risky it was to get rid of that line at Disneyland I mean I could be in very big trouble for telling you this. But if you knew how easy they go out of business with one video game flop, one movie flop one year where they don't have enough people going to those Disney hotels and all of that and eating and consuming what they have. If you knew just how much power you had as a consumer. You can flip them on a dime. And they're not the very strong principled people where they're saying I'm not here for money, oh, they very much are there for money and they will sell out and I'm okay. I'm not going to say many things. I apologize, but, but. But anyways, you have a lot of power and you have a lot of control and you've already been exercising and it's what you should do and congratulations.
13:55
You're doing it with the school system as well. The school system has had the same thing happen through their libraries and their books and their teachers, doing exactly what we were doing in the movies, and they've been promoting social engineering, different family lifestyles, not having parental choice, health choices, where the parent doesn't even have choices with their health of their children. So you have been doing it with the schools, and the schools are finally starting to wake up as well, because now people are saying you know what? I don't need this anymore. You're not very valuable anymore, schools. You're hurting our children. You're not very valuable anymore, schools. You're hurting our children. You're not taking care of them as well as we'd like you to. We're paying for you via property taxes. You need to make a change. So you're doing a great job at that and it is making a massive change.
14:33
So what has happened is the studios have admitted it, schools are now. The kids are filming. So now they are, they don't really have a defense, because what would happen is when I would tell people this, even when I worked at DreamWorks, I would say we're social engineering people, we are manipulating them, we're pushing out propaganda, we are making brainwashing stuff. The first thing people started doing was they would initially, even my own family would say no, they're not. They would never do that. Not Disney, not DreamWorks, not.
15:04 - Janae Daniels (Host)
ESPN Would you ever get? Oh, you're a conspiracy theorist.
15:07 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Oh, all the time, all the time. But here's what the mind-blowing thing is. So it goes from no, they're not, that's not happening. And I always say, well, I'm making the soup. I don't know how else to tell you. I want to come to the studio so it's in the soup, yeah yes, yes.
15:23
And so it's like so, you? So it's just fascinating human nature, and I think you guys gotta gotta hear this because it's mind-blowing. So it goes from um, no, no, they're not. And and there was almost nothing I could do to convince people other than it got so far that finally they started snapping on their own and they started like, oh my gosh, it's so blatant, like frozen and a lego movie. And now in schools and even in finance, where they were debanking people, it got so far.
15:50
And in journalism, people used to say journalism was like objective and real, and that I mean even like two and three years ago, that journalism was not just complete social engineering. And even today there'll be like 10 of people that still believe what they hear on mbc. It's fascinating that they don't. They don't understand how catered and, uh, architected it is, and so, anyways, uh, it goes from no, they're not doing that. And then finally they realize and now disney and others have admitted to it. Um, to now, when I'll go on podcasts or people will talk about, I'll say, okay, well, we're beyond, they're not, they are doing it, they've admitted it. So there's no conflict there, there's no conspiracy, they're doing it. And the fascinating thing is to where they go. And it's just this whole thing and people I don't know what it is where they can't let go, that they've been deceived or something. They say, well, yeah, but they've always been doing it, so it doesn't really matter. It's always been a thing, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't even know where to go. I'm trying to help people, to try to like let them know, and I'm also trying to like not have the negative consequences. That's the even deeper thing. Look, you can tell them people and you're like, okay, they're aware, but the negative consequences of social engineering or manipulating people with story through journalism or movies or comic books or music, what it does is it makes people hate each other.
17:11
So these conflicts, you're seeing, they didn't just come out of la la land. Well, actually, they did partly. Um, they, they. They came from building people up to dislike, uh, gender, uh uh, religion, way of life. They create this deep-seated hatred and then it causes people to do things like be violent or belittle or be very, very okay with verbally abusing someone. And what I mean is, up until literally a week ago, it was okay, if a conservative or a Christian got online and said anything to just verbally massacre them. It's just been. It's just been acceptable, even I would say, for homeschool people, moms and dads. For some reason it has just been OK to verbally attack and abuse just with with no sense that you were doing what was wrong. Attack and abuse just with no sense that you were doing what was wrong.
18:06
Now this has been structured by a lot of data points that people have been getting on social media, in movies, that they're nut jobs, that they're whack jobs, that their kids are going to grow up and not be socially acceptable, which is completely the opposite. The studies have shown I'm pretty well versed in this with John Hopkins. It's on the iTunes University. You can do an adolescent development. Dr Blum has gone through a series of studies versus private school, versus public school, versus homeschool and homeschool always comes out on top with income, with marriage rates, with lack of doing drugs, suicide and all those. By far it is the best and that's because the parent cares more about the child than the school or the teacher. I know they care, but not as much as the parent. Even in the private school, even when you're paying 27 grand a year, it just comes out on top. It just has the most success rates, but for some reason, we've been pumping on everyone that it's not a good idea, anyways. So it can happen in a lot of ways. So've moved to oh well, it's always been happening, so it's just okay. So that's where we're at now. To to we've moved even past oh well, it's always be happy, it's always been happening to. Now we're getting into a new world. Uh, I'm going to fight against it. So now we have what's called snapback, and this has happened about the last two to three.
19:25
Well, we've been having social engineering for about since the 80s, where it really became big, and then right around 2006 to 2010 is when it basically engulfed media. It's happened in the past a lot. It's happened in the past in different areas, with sexual things and normalizing a lot of behaviors that no one would have thought would have been okay. So this is how they kind of made it palatable. But that's really where it launched off, where politics, social engineering and media came together in a terrible relationship which has really ruined itself. It's really fallen on its own design and foundation and really just broken up all over itself. It's in a terrible spot right now.
20:09
So we've gone from no, it doesn't happen. Okay, everyone knows it's happening, so everyone's aware to. Oh well, this has always been happening, since ever we've tried to be, people have tried to do this in books and I know I do not believe it has always been happening how it has been happening now. Even though people say that to me when, when it's brought up to now, people are aware of it and they, even if it has been happening in the past or whatever, it doesn't make it okay. But now that now people are just mad. They're mad that it's been happening. They feel like they've been, uh, lied to, they feel like they've been abused, and I've never seen so many mad moms being like I'm never going to disneyland again. It's like, it's honestly like mind-blowing.
20:48
Or I've never seen so many people saying like they say what they say about the public school system or, uh, and the negatives that have happened with there, or uh, about hollywood, people, people will just yeah, that's woke garbage. Or about journalism called the legacy media or the or the fake news. And they're not lying, it's true. What they're saying is not a manufactured response. It's a real response to the, the, the destructuring that media did to itself, the lack of principle, the principles that they lost and it's where we're at. So what do we do now? Like what do we do? Hollywood is on its hills. It's literally the worst it's ever been.
21:36
Right now, political messaging and ruining the family and attacking religion and making kids feel like they were supposed to be a different gender, which is so insane. It just ruined so many lives. When Hollywood did that, they took their eye off of innovation and creating good stories and their product, and that made them not innovate. And while they were doing this, ai and everything else in the technology industry was innovating and has just done a double take on Hollywood and completely destroyed it. So not only are they completely out of date and deprioritized, but now they're in a position where they have no idea how to make the movies of the next 20 and 30 years and how to tell stories in such a great way.
22:27
So, in a probably just way, youtube and individual creators like myself have taken over Moms where they didn't go to school to be a teacher, or dads who didn't go to school to be a teacher are seeing the faults of teachers and the faults of the system and saying you know what? I'm going to do this on my own, I can do a better job and it's because the teachers took their eye off of educating and put their eye on. How many rainbow flags am I going to put up in the classroom? Or how am I going to make people feel like American history is awful? Or how am I going to attack capitalism and make people feel like that there's a better way out there, and it just hasn't worked? And the same thing with movies. And so what happened is the schools have gotten heavier and less innovative, and Hollywood has gotten heavier and less innovative. Financial institutions have gotten heavier and less. Hospitals have gotten heavier and less innovative, and they've all become more expensive while at the same time becoming less valuable.
23:20
Moms, on the other hand, dads, on the other hand, have taken this time to educate themselves, to become nimble and to become innovative. Movie makers have done the same thing. Finance people have done the old and dumping, the, the control, and removing themselves from the chaos and the control and the, the bully. The bullying has been so wrongly used, it's been so opposite. We're moving away from that and we're taking control ourselves, as parents, as movie makers, as financial, financial people, as journalists.
24:07
No one is listening to the news. No one is listening to it. Now it is one guy with a phone or one girl with a phone telling it and it's beautiful. It has democratized messaging, it has democratized education and it's really the only way we can go, because we can't go back. We can't go back. We have to go forward this way and I think it's creating new, better. We can go because we can't go back, we can't go back. We have to go forward this way and I think it's creating new, better schools, homeschools that are smaller.
24:29
I mean, that's what I do. You're in a room right now. I don't know if you can see. You've got that. That's my kids homeschool over there, okay, so I'd like to, I'd like to share about school, cause I know you guys are interested in school. Okay, that's my kids' homeschooling over there is where I take them, and they built their own desks out of wood. I brought in teachers to teach them how to break. They welded their own desks, they built their own computers. They have their own books, their own library and it's beautiful, and they would be in here nearly every day working on their own schoolwork.
25:01
And what I call school is how are your investments doing? All right, let's open up your fidelity. They invest in their own companies. How is your business doing that? You run your own business. They have a lawn care business, a leaf blowing business, and they're trying to work on a couple other sewing businesses and other things. And then I say, okay, how are your languages going? We take it control of ourself because the schools haven't done a good enough job.
25:23
Now here's the hard part. It's very easy for us because the people probably listening to this are very smart. You wouldn't be listening to it if you weren't smart, capable, looking up your own information, not being. You're proactive. So it's very easy for you, because you're probably successful in life, to just go and say, all right, screw them, let's hammer them, screw the schools, let's screw the Hollywood, let's do it on our own because we're better anyways.
25:49
Well, there's still a lot of people there who are like you. They're just trapped on their paycheck or they're trapped in their job and they don't know how to fight against the system. They're trying to improve it from the inside and I am noticing that they are coming around the inside. And I am noticing that they are coming around. They are coming around. Schools are starting to include more entrepreneurial things. Schools are trying to do things that do promote God, that they're not saying that, like you know, they're doing things that do promote a child's faith other than secularism or science. They are doing things that do promote the parent to be as heavily involved as possible, and I will say they're doing it pretty much by force, but they're doing it. Yeah, hollywood. Hollywood is changing, amazon is changing, netflix is changing, and I don't think they're changing from really good motives, but they are changing. Maybe they'll come around and realize how much better it is.
26:39 - Janae Daniels (Host)
But they are changing. I don't think they want to change.
26:41 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Oh no, they don't. Well, I think I want to change. Oh no, they don't. Well, I, I think I. I want to give the human, any human, the benefit of the doubt. Realize they're like a soul and they're learning and they're trying to get better and they're and, and maybe it's something in their childhood that makes them become like a predator or something, but they have. We, we can benevolently keep helping them change so we can re what you can.
27:03
Yeah, it really is not helpful for us to rail the crap out of Disney and and and we can't. You have every justification to do it. But, if you can, when you go there, like tell them, oh gosh, so hard, like cause you have no idea, like how hard the, the, the, the engineers are working they didn't sign up for this the people running the lines this is a very, very small group doing this the amount of money they don't get and how much they're paid. Well, they don't want to do this stuff. They're getting the penalty, they're the ones getting fired, they're the ones getting blamed. So, if you can appreciate, when they do good stuff oh my gosh, you made Tangled 3 or whatever and they do get married and the woman can show some feminine attributes that everyone loves to see, and the man can not be an idiot in everything he says oh my gosh, you did it wonderful. We're going to go three times, we're going to thank you for it and please keep making more of that. That goes so far, because what did the other side do?
28:05
The other side that has screamed at them and morphed disney, morphed dreamworks, morphed financial institution, morphed schools into what they have become, are very mean. They're very aggressive, they're very threatening, they're they're not very loving, they're not very kind. What, what? The ones that have come after me, at least, and the ones that I see, and they're very reactive. So if they don't do it their way, they're going to boycott them and they're going to scream at them. They're going to be well, it just doesn't work long term. It doesn't work long term.
28:35
So you've got these excellent institutions like public school that has taken a really deep turn south, and you've got these excellent institutions like Disney that has taken a really bad turn south, and you've got these excellent institutions like disney that has taken a really bad turn south, and like vanguards and even fidelity and um, all of these financial banks and institutions, because they've done this, and you have journalism like nbc, cnn, fox, um, and they've all taken a really bad turn and you don't have to support them. But if they ever have a moment where they try to turn back it, they definitely appreciate it. And then then they take a note that, oh my gosh, some of the audience came back and said thank you. Well, these other people pressuring me, they sure don't say thank you, they just say we're going to string you up if you don't do it our way and you can bring them back. You can bring them back Now. You don't have to. It's not your responsibility to do that. Even better is to support the ones that are doing it right, and the Disney's, and they'll come around.
29:23
So when you have these really good groups, like in journalism the one I worked for is Project Veritas, james O'Keefe I don't work for him currently, but they call and we're still great friends and. But those were. Those are some of the disruptor organizations that changed journalism. And now the other journalism say we better catch up because this guy's innovating journalism and we're getting really far behind. So they start catching up. And so you can do that with animation studios. There are new animation. I'm working on one right now there are new animations and new movies coming, there are new studios that are coming around and people are taking note that more people are watching that and more people are gravitating towards that.
30:04
And so Amazon and Netflix and the other people that went so destructive and chaotic and so immoral and so just awful. They really took the beautiful opportunity to do messaging in one of the most beautiful ways possible with your eyes and your ears all at once, and they stopped innovating and then just told nasty, propaganda-esque stories. And people have left it. They're over it. Football did it, espn did it, sports did it, and we've left it. We no longer care to watch a sporting event. We'd rather watch someone like Charlie Kirk. We'd rather watch him speak. There's more drama and there's more good and bad and there's more heroicism in that story that is real than the fake stories that we're screwing in Hollywood and such. So, anyways, that's where you're at.
30:48
You're at a really important point right now. And yes, we do need to do homeschool. Yes, we do need to take care of our kids independent of other organizations. Yes, we've got to do the movies, we've got to do the finance, we've got to fix our country, we've got to help in politics and we're doing it. We're doing it, but the way that it's been done in the last decade was very much divisive, where we're going to hope and change our country and hope and change the media and we're going to hope and change I'm using that on purpose, because that's when it started.
31:20
We're going to hope and change everything. If you don't come along, we're going to debank you, outcast you and ruin your life. We're going to hope and change everything. If you don't come along, we're going to debank you, outcast you and ruin your life. We're going to do it verbally, on social media and it didn't work.
31:30
So you can't use that method and think when you're standing for something good or doing for something good, that it's going to work. Because it doesn't work. There's something, when you hurt someone or when you belittle someone, even when they're in the wrong, that it doesn't help them. There's a better method to do it to bring them back. And when I say bring them back, bring them back to what is good, people always ask well, what is good?
31:53
Something that works over time is good, and you find things that don't work, like suppression of free speech doesn't work. Communism doesn't work. You just over time, it just doesn't work. It destroys innovation, it destroys education, it destroys a civilization, and we've seen that in Rome, persepolis, the British Empire. We're seeing it in America. Right now, in America, we're teetering. Persepolis, the British Empire we're seeing it in America. Right now, in America, we're teetering. People say are we falling, are we rising? I think we're teetering. I think we still have the choice. We have the choice and I think it's going to be moms who are listening, who take control of their children's education and what they watch on media.
32:30
And you should never feel ashamed If you're a mom and you say I turned tv off, I got rid of it, I don't let them have a phone, or I don't let them do that. Do not let anyone tell you that you are not doing the right thing or that you are a uh, or too strict or whatever. You cannot be too strict. All right, you cannot. We have seen what laissez-faire has done and let them figure it out on their own has done. Yes, you can challenge them and yes, you can allow them to make decisions and be their landing board, but giving them access to a full mountain load of social engineering that comes to their social media and movies, what you do through a phone or what you do in the public education system that we can't control and what you do through all of these other avenues is not strict, it's not even protective, it's more. I'm giving you a better path to educate yourself.
33:20
And a lot of people spit on you and you shouldn't. I've been spit on my whole life. Even now, up until a week ago, if I ever brought up church, god or even homeschool, I was spit on in a New York second. Now, for the first time there's been so many. And we're spit on in a New York second. Now, for the first time there's been so many. Because we're spit on because we're quiet. We're spit on because we're not confrontational.
33:42
And when I talk about we, I mean the silent majority in America which are mostly religious, mostly God-believing, mostly good, mostly family-oriented, mostly man and woman marriage, and they're a silent majority and they've been spent on so much that now they're finally coming together and saying we like to go about this a different way.
34:06
It's not working and we'd like to take more control. So that's how you're doing it and I hope you can find a great benevolent way to do it and a great way to lift those, because the people that were the people that were creating this chaos, whether it's in media, like where I was, or creating these degrading and harmful messages, which has harmed countless children that grow up believing these things and then believe that the groups of people that we made them hate are okay to hate the groups of people that doing this, they did a very bad thing, but they sure are returning very quick, and so that's what we wrestle with now how do we go forward? We have every tool to do it, we have every reason to do it, and now we are unfettered from doing it, and so go ahead.
34:51 - Janae Daniels (Host)
So here's my question, because I want to move into talking about what you're doing, what you've been doing the last couple of years, because they figured out OK, the social engineering isn't working anymore, so we've got to change tactics. So let's talk about what you've been doing in Washington and with Congress and and and what you've seen and how it's been affecting women and children with the trafficking.
35:19 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Okay, yeah, so when I was at DreamWorks, I was the scout leader and I was in charge of the 12-year-old boys, or 11-year-old boys, the casualties of social engineering, and the woke pressure that's the word people use now. We didn't use it 10 and 15 years ago. They call it woke today. All right, back then we just called it social engineering or okay, or the religious zealot that voted for proposition a, go after her, make her the enemy. Okay, which I did not do, and I actually got it removed from mr peabody and sherman. Okay, it took my job. It took my job to do it, and it's very risky for me to even bring it up, but anyways, yeah, scouts. So I was the scout leader and, um, uh, I didn't know how to teach these scouts about what they were really dealing with. And this was in, um uh, east Palo Alto. Anyone who wants to look up the history of that, one of the most dangerous places there are? Um, I've, I've always lived in Utah and grown up here, but when I went on my mission and when I went to Brazil and when I went and worked at DreamWorks even though I'd always come back I lived there in San Francisco, on the peninsula, in Redwood City. Okay, so I've always had a house here, but that's where I would go for work and even Washington, when I worked at Xbox, or in New York for Project Veritas, and now in Washington DC. So it's been a really nice way to see all of these data points of life and put it together as to, oh my gosh, this is what's happening on the political media and different different corners of what's going on, from media to journalism, to what I do now, which is like more like politics. So let me so, anyways, teaching scouts, and I didn't know how to teach him about pornography. I didn't know how to teach him about, um, you know some of the things that we're facing like, even, because scouts was good for certain things, but it missed a couple pieces. And so I looked up this place in DC that was uh, uh, called porn harms, and I said, hey, look, hey, my name is andrew, I love what you guys do. Do you have any material that I can teach these boys? And, um, they gave me some material. Then they had a big summit and I said, well, hey, can I come and film the summit? I know how to film really well. And that turned into oh my gosh, you're not in film. Will you film our whole summit for us? And then will you do our powerpoints and set up our stage and run the whole summit somehow. And so, yeah, it very quickly, uh turned into something else. So I did it for free and I was like, yeah, because I love what they did, I went there, I met them all and I met every corner of the person, or every, every person from every corner that came to washington dc that was dealing with this um, from former pornography producers at uh playboy to tech people, to a lot of former prostitutes and a lot of former people who had been exploited all the way back to the 60s.
38:04
It was mind-blowing to see the history of it. So, anyways, over time they hired me full-time and so now I work there. They wanted me to move there and I was actually going to move there. I was really close to getting a really nice place on the Potomac in Virginia, but I didn't move there. I think that was Providence. But I still go there about every other month. Every other month I go there and we're in all the judicial hearings with all the senators and the tech CEOs. We're in all of the hearings that has anything to do with, like the Epstein stuff or anything like that.
38:35
We're very much pushing bills that are bad, like section two, 30, or trying to repeal that or stop bills that are bad, and we're very much pushing bills Like we just got past the take it down act, um, with uh Klobuchar Senator Klobuchar from Minnesota and Senator Cruz from Texas, so it was a bipartisan and Trump signed it and so did Melania, and so right now, your child if your child has anything on the phone or any piece of media that's of them, taken of them, ai'd of them, or anything you by law can have it taken down off the internet within 48 hours. You just got to go to the bottom and you got to respond to them and say, hey, I need this taken down now via the Take it Down Act. Just make sure to put that in there, take it down, I need this down in 48 hours. And, by law, facebook all of Meta so that's Instagram, all of Snapchat, all of TikTok, all of YouTube has to take it down. They have 48 hours to do it or you have legal repercussions.
39:29
So we got that bill passed and it has to do with sexual content, not speech. Not speech. Okay, not speech. We didn't want to injure free speech, but it has to do with any sort of sexual content and you should know this bill was not started by me or our organization, which is called National Center on Sexual Exploitation, or NACOZI A lot of great people that work there. You can look it up.
39:50
If you want to donate, tell them you want something or what you want it to go to, or what bill or what thing for children you want, and we'll push hard for that. And so it didn't come from us, it didn't come from Senator Cruz, it came from a 15-year-old girl. Can you believe that you don't have to be a senator to get a lot? All the way to the president and the president's wife and the entire Senate, because it was voted, I believe, on Senate lines 100 percent and on the House there was very few people that voted against it, so it was nearly 100 and 100 in. Both came from a 15 year old girl. So you can be a mom, you can be a dad, you can be anyone. You get it. Because people tell me all the time I can't do something past my city level. I can't do something past my city level. I can't do something on the state level, I can't do something on the county or the federal level. Yeah, you can, you can. This 15-year-old girl did it and we helped her and it has to be something that's good. But we helped her, we got it to the or she got it to the senator, her mom, senator Cruz. Senator Cruz took the bill, got the bipartisan. We helped support it to build the whole coalition. And, yeah, you can get anything passed in America if it is the right thing, and um, and, and that's you should. You should re-listen to what I just said. A lot of bad people know this as well, so they try to get anything passed, just as lobbyists or just as people that have money, and they try to get into the system as well, and so we really try to stop that, and you should too. But you can take control. Just like you're taking control of your kid's education or Hollywood or entertainment or journalism, you can take control of the politics for good, to build more freedom, to build better things, and so. So that's what I do. Now I go back to DC. Um, dc has opened my eyes so much If I could tell you a couple of things that happened in DC that no one knows, that are just like the best.
41:45
You, when you walk by the Supreme Court on any day of the week, there's a whole group of people praying in a circle and it's the most beautiful thing you've ever seen and you just stop and you listen to them and they they don't, no one knows they're doing it and they're praying about like something so important. So when roe v wade gets overthrown and people are like, wow, how did that happen? Well, you see behind the scenes and you see these people. It's amazing what they do. And then not a lot of people read what's in the je Monument, where they go and they look at it and they can see the cross. You got to see the cross when you're at the Jefferson Monument, where you can see past the Washington and past the all the way to the White House.
42:26
But they don't ever read what he wrote on his monument. No one ever reads it, no one ever talks about it. Or they know I'll say what it is in a minute where they never look at the big painting of Pocahontas being baptized in the Capitol. It's mind-blowing and no one talks about it. They never go to the prayer circle by the World War II monument. It's just to the side. Everyone skips it. You can go there and you can read FDR's prayer. It's amazing where he talks about Rome and everything. You got to go find it and almost no one goes there and it's one of the best parts of the mall.
42:57
They also don't. They also don't see what, but anyways, what is written on the um Jefferson monument, and the biggest uh in the biggest font is um. I I'm not going to get it perfect, but I'll get the gist and you should look it up. It's I kneel at the altar of God and swear an oath, an eternal oath, to fight against any form of tyranny on the mind of man. It's mind-blowing, like you read this stuff and you're just like where has this been? Why do we not hear this? All we heard is about some letter where it's like separation of church and state.
43:36
It's not even the constitution, but we don't ever hear what he actually wanted people to know that he's kneeling at the altar of god pledging or, I guess, making an oath eternally that he will eternally fight against any tyranny on the mind of man. I think he's still fighting for it. It's beautiful. So people don't spend the time to actually look into what this real core was about. They don't know that Lincoln is on one side sitting there, but they don't know what's on the other side, across the pond, across the Washington. So it's President Grant and he's on his horse and he looks so great and he's looking back at Lee to try to preserve that freedom for all men. And there's a lot of other things, a lot of other things. So you have that and you kind of know about that.
44:17
What people don't also know and you're kind of learning about it in the news right now, is what happens when you go two streets beyond that and you start looking at what's going on at Maryland and you look at what's going on in these other streets, where schools have become woke, churches have become political organizations, crime is out of crazyville. There's rats all over the streets. I have to like jump over them and I literally have to pretend like I'm a jogger going from street to street so that I can get myself robbed or beat up or worse, and it's so dangerous it's I could never bring my family there to live at that part. You have to go out further, like way, way down by Virginia or way, way, way way West. I took my wife to Maryland and we walked through it and we went through it. You wouldn't even get out of the car. There are nice places, but not. There are some really bad, really really bad places and it doesn't have to be that way and so, yeah, so you don't, you don't really see these.
45:08
Now the other thing is what you need to know about DC is anyone can go and talk to any Senator or any Congressman or any Congresswoman. So you have the Capitol building. Right, they call it the Hill. There's a Capitol building, but what you don't know is most of the stuff is happening on the two buildings to the side of it. Um, the Rayburn, um, I don't know the, the. I forget the names, but um, I'm always in them. I should know the names really good, but there are four buildings. There are four buildings. I'm always in them. I should know the names are really good, but there are four buildings. There are four buildings, they're all white, they're beautiful.
45:37
I film in there all the time and the senators and the congressmen, that's where they have all their offices. So I'm going in there and filming or going from office to office, and anyone can go in there. You don't need permission to go in there. It is public, you can go in there. You have to get, obviously, go through all of the security, but you can go in there and you can find all your representatives, all of your senators and any of the others, and they are more than willing to sit down and talk with you and they're not much different than someone at your church or someone in your school group, your homeschool group, and they are honestly, most of them are good people.
46:10
But what people don't understand is there's a wall in between you and them and it's called staffers and you might have heard of this a little bit, but there is a wall of what they call the real government and it is the employees. I don't know how else to say it. It's upside down and it happens all the way down on a city level, where the employees they stay there for 30 years but the representatives come and go and they rely so heavily on these employees or these staffers that the staffers begin to begin making decisions on legislation. It takes a very strong congressman or woman or a very strong representative to overcome this. They have to be very self-successful, they can't need money from anyone and they have to be just a type of personality that's willing to override people's feelings, because there's a lot of self-interest.
47:00
And so you need to overcome these staffers by saying I'm sorry, I need to actually talk to the representative, and they'll say, oh no, no, you can't do that and I said well, I need to. They're my representative, or I have a meeting, or you just need to make friend with the staffer until you can get by that staffer, because that's your wall, ok, and it's not how government is supposed to behave, but it's just one of the flaws of democracy. I know that's not a happy thing to talk about, but given that we switch people in and out, the staffers stay there so long that it's almost like an underground government and what happens is when the staffers, yeah, and when, what happens is when a staffer gets, when their representative gets let go, and they're a Republican state, and so, yeah, it's not right.
47:39
And so you learn, kind of, how these things are really work versus how they're supposed to work. And then you realize, ok, I need to build these friendships, I need to promote good, I need to never let go of my principles. And then is that, whatever way I can, I need to talk to the congressman or the senator, and then I can lay out very clearly what I'm trying to do, and in this case it's you know, make it so families and children can have content taken off the internet that is abusive of them sexually, and so that, and as long as you're very clear, you can get it done and you can build the coalitions and they'll thank you, they'll honestly thank you. So point of all of that is it's a beautiful place, it's got a lot of problems and we know why the problems have happened, so we've got to stop doing those like what I was talking about in Maryland. And then the way to get to your congressman is you can do it, you can go to these places. You should visit, if you're ever there, and you should go talk to them. Make sure you find out when they're in session during the summer. They're usually not there. During holidays they're not there. They're usually not there during holidays. They're not there.
48:58
You can sit in and watch any of the judicial hearings. You can be in there after and before. They usually have press conferences. You can ask them questions. You can. You can say, hey, I have a question. Not just the media gets to ask all the questions. People can ask questions.
49:09
So I would say I would say the public can be a little bit more assertive. They can be a little bit more assertive because the people that are being assertive are mostly paid staffers or someone that has some sort of agenda. And I know you don't have a lot of time, I know it's expensive. So if you can try to elect people that will be that and they do know these kind of tricks, it will help a lot. Don't vote for the people that want to do this as a career. It really is holding back America, holding back our education. It's really holding back a lot. That I can go and work in this as a career. It sounds like kind of a noble thing like, oh, you're going to go work as a staffer. Don't do that very long. Don't make this a career. It really stifles a lot of good things that can happen. It holds a lot of it up.
49:57 - Janae Daniels (Host)
If I can think of anything else that will help in DC, I'll let you know, but those are just some things Now let's talk about, because before we started recording, you had mentioned one of the things that that you were doing is that with with trafficking, they're hitting up kids through DMS on video games through. Facebook DMs. Can we talk? Let's talk about that a little bit Um. I recently saw something where they found that that kids were were being contacted through roadblocks.
50:31 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Oh yeah.
50:31 - Janae Daniels (Host)
Okay, so let's, let's go over that, let's dive into all of that.
50:35 - Andrew Young (Guest)
It's probably the most valuable thing that a parent can hear right now with children. So pause there. Before I do it, I'm going to go get a plug to plug in my phone so this doesn't power down. It's going to take me 10 seconds. You can delete that. Or, if it has to go on, just give me 10 seconds. You look at the studio. Just give me 10 seconds. Okay, that should be better. I didn't want to go down, sorry, uh, if, uh, I should be more prepared, but, um, there's a lot going on. My neighborhood wrote me into city council and then work, and then we run like a business here with creating content and you know church and family. We got five kids and just had one. We have our kids at home, so we had our child right here.
51:47 - Janae Daniels (Host)
When were they born? Was I? When was your child born, your last one?
51:52 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Like two months ago. So I was really trying, yeah, so that's really trying, yeah. So that's why this isn't as professional as it should be.
52:01 - Janae Daniels (Host)
So anyways, Now I'm a mom that's doing it in my basement closet, so you're good. So you get it, you get it Okay.
52:08 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Do you want me to answer the question then, or do you want to restate it, or how would you like to go forward?
52:13 - Janae Daniels (Host)
uh, just go ahead and answer the question, because I can edit from there.
52:16 - Andrew Young (Guest)
So, okay. So janae was just asking me about, uh, what's called sextortion, and every kid should know about this. Every adult should know about this, and it's something that you're going to hear a lot more about it, but what it is is on roblox or on YouTube or on Instagram or on Snapchat or on any of these platforms. There are DMs.
52:39 - Janae Daniels (Host)
Is it on Minecraft as well?
52:41 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Oh yeah, oh, it happens on Minecraft all the time. So DMs are just direct messages. There's nothing flashy about it, it's just a way to message people. Well, people figured out and some of these people are coming from, like Algeria, the Middle East, south America People figured out how to grab pictures and turn them. Ok, I'll just I'll just tell you how it happens. So this is how it's happening. A boy will be on a video game or YouTube. Tell you how it happens, so this is how it's happening. A boy will be on a video game or YouTube, okay, and he'll get a friend request from, like, a really cute girl. All right, there's no other way to say this. I'll just tell you how it's happening. A really cute girl and this really cute girl will start to uh, talk about anything and everything for a couple of days and then, uh, she or he will, um, say, let's do pictures and do pictures and put the ramen bowl or a heart or an emoji or whatever, and, if you'd like to see, this story how?
53:30
it's playing out. You can go to noescaperoomcom or org or NCMEC, national Center on Missing and Exploited Children. They have a whole movie training about how this works. Ok, so it's called no escape room and you can watch how it happens and you can help your kids and your family. So what happens is the boy thinks he's talking to this like beautiful girl or this or a man or a girl thinks she's talking to some, you know, hunk or some really cool guy, and they're very interested in them. And uh, they start doing pictures. So she sends him a picture of her and sometimes these are real and the girl has been exploited to create pictures of herself via a threat that if she doesn't create pictures of herself, something really bad is going to happen, and I'll explain that in a minute. But they exploit the child is. They get these pictures from girls and I'll explain how they do that in a little bit so that you can tell your daughters how to avoid it. Okay, cause the more we shine a light on this, the girls aren't going to get tricked. And then the boys. I'll show you what happens to them.
54:34
What happens is the boy gets the picture and it's out of his mind Like any 13 year old boy would be doesn't know how to process any of it. And he sends a picture back because she says you know, you now show me this or that or this, and it's, you know it's their private parts. You know it's them with I'll just be frank, it's them without their pants or whatever. And so, um, uh, he doesn't get a response for maybe 30 minutes, maybe a day, and then, all of a sudden, the response that comes back is and this is what we're seeing. We have like harvard guys on this, we have anti-terrorist people on this. Um, we have really this has become a massive problem. The response he gets back is this is the list of the 30, uh, family members and friends you have here. They are because they're they're social media friends, so they can find their, their list. I'm going to send that picture you just sent me to every single one of them and I'm going to ruin your life unless you send me three grand right now. So this is the exploitation that happens.
55:35
The kid is absolutely just. You can't even imagine he feels so much guilt, so much like out of what he did. They use the guilt against him. Yeah, uh, it's. This is the most horrifying satanic thing you can think of. Um it's. It's like it shows the deepest, darkest point of our predator class. And I've talked to the uh, I'll. I'll give you the name of the guy who's over this. Um, really great guy. Um facebook tried to hire him and then, when they found out he did this, they they nixed him right away. Former Harvard, former terrorism watch, anyways, he's in charge of this, and so what happens is they threaten to send the videos or the photos to all of the friends and family unless they give him the money. The kid is just distraught, doesn't know what to do. Can't tell his parents, because if he tells his parents he's in trouble. Can't tell his parents because if he tells his parents he's in trouble. Can't tell his friends because they're the ones who he's embarrassed about and he doesn't have the money.
56:31
He tries to get together the money, tries to get together the money, and this is where we're getting all the suicides, like one a week. And this is not happening to, like you know, poor minorities, like people in the projects or people in some you know, like difficult situation. This is happening to everyone across the board. We're having moms from you know North Carolina and you know New York and all over the West and you know Arizona, coming in, dads, moms, Florida, all over, and these are school teachers and they're just everyone rich people.
57:03
We came in and we found our child with their phone dead with a gun or with pills or with whatever it is, and because it's because the child either can't get the money together, or, when the child does get the money, they say, OK, put it on an Amazon gift card, or put it on a gift card and send me the number, because that's the only way they can get the money really quick or use cash app or whatever. And I hesitate to even say this because it's such an evil secret combination that happens or an evil method of ruining someone's life. But people got to know, you got to know that this is happening so you can bring it up with your kids, so it never happens and so we can't hide it. But what happens is when we go and we search through and find out who these people are.
57:42
It's obviously not a girl, it's three guys in Algeria or Nigeria, or it's people on, you know, the African coast doing this, or it's people in South America or people in the Middle East. And they're what they're doing before they do this to the kid, and it's mostly the boys who are committing suicide. What they're doing is they're going after girls, first posing as someone and then getting them to do some sort of photo, first posing as someone and then getting them to do some sort of photo. Now, the most horrifying part is when the child can't get the money together. They teach them how to kill themselves. They give them step-by-step instruction, and that to me and I've talked to the Harvard guy that to me, is why I think this is a much deeper thing than just a couple of guys in these poor countries trying to make money. I think they're, I told him, I think they're being paid by more affluent countries, because otherwise why would they? Why would they want the child to commit suicide in America?
58:30 - Janae Daniels (Host)
I was going to say what's? What benefit does it have for them, for a child to to hurt themselves?
58:36 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Well, I think, I think there's. I think there's countries that want a uh, depleted, um male population in America, especially a young one, for military reasons and for a lot of other reasons, and so, anyways, when I talk to them about that, they say, look, that's not off the table. I'm like who came up with a sophisticated psychological extortion campaign. This is not something that Africans do. This is not something that people in the Middle East concoct up. This is way deeper, this is way more nuanced and layered to do this on multiple levels and then do it and they trade the texts on how to do it. So, anyways, that's one of the biggest things we're trying to stop. It's one of the reasons we passed the take it down law. It's one of the reasons we're working so heavily to try to stop it.
59:25
It's gone well beyond pornography now for the girls, what they're doing is they're trying to get like some sort of guy to entice them to do photos, and then what happens is they don't extort the, the, the girl, for money or for um to hurt herself. They extort her for more pictures. Then they can use those for the boys to um use those pictures. So they extort them for more. Look, if you don't send me more pictures, I'm going to send these to all of your family members and I'm going to send them to all your friends. So that's how they're extorting the girls. Now we're pleading with the tech companies, because they know this is happening.
01:00:01 - Janae Daniels (Host)
They know this.
01:00:02 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Well, this goes into the deeper problem, which is you've got to all know why they are not doing anything about this. And it's not because they're not moral, even though there's a problem there it's because there's a law that protects them. So what happened in the 90s? And this is important, so this history is important and no one knows it, so you've got to know it.
01:00:26
In the 90ss, there was a senator called um senator exxon, from nebraska, okay, and you can look all this up and you can watch it on c-span you should if you have the time. Senator exxon was a really great guy. He's he's passed away since. And he, at the infancy of the internet, said I see where this is going. I can't even believe how like forward thinking he was to see what is happening right now. He said I see where this is going, I know what's going to happen with this internet. He and he. And then he maps it all out to the Senate. He says the innocent will be exploited by those who are predators and he goes through that. What's going to happen to women? And he goes through what's going to happen to our society and our culture and he says what is the greatest asset that we can protect. Is there nothing greater than the minds of our children? And he does such a great job at that asset, trying to protect that.
01:01:16
Essentially, the Senate passes a law in the 90s, early 90s this is during the Clinton administration called the Communications Decency Act. Okay, and it passes nearly unanimously in the Senate and it does a couple things which you will probably be amazed by that we actually passed it criminalizes pornography Okay, so literally we would have had no pornography on the internet because it would have been a criminal offense. Right now it's protected very highly under speech and we try to do something just to protect children. So we would have had no pornography because it would have been criminal, all right. We would have had any enticing by a minor be criminal and the government would have had full ability to go after enticing a minor on the internet. That just means just talking to them, okay. That means any sort of enticement of a minor and it would have created a whole task force, basically police or utilize the fbi, the doj, to be able to go after anyone for any sort of enticement of a minor, and it would have created a whole task force, basically police or utilize the fbi, the doj, to be able to go after anyone for any sort of pornography or dirty scumbag content. Now you realize how close this can get into speech, and so I'm going to explain what happened.
01:02:17
This goes over to the house side and um, um, he's now a senator. I have his face in my head, senator Y, I get his name and a Republican. So they get up. You can look it up, because it's called Section 230.
01:02:33
So they say we need to make an amendment to this Communications Decency Act in the House before this goes to the president to sign it, and we need to make an amendment that makes tech companies, which back then were like AOL and Netscape and a bunch of other ones that have gone out of business. We need to make it so they are not liable. Because if we say that pornography and all of this smut is illegal, well we're not going to be able to grow the Internet because AOL is going to have someone who entices a minor, aol is going to get sued, and so if AOL gets sued, we're not going to be able to grow the internet. So we have to make tech companies not liable and what we know that they will do is and it was kind of conditional as long as they are policing themselves. So tech companies must. They want to police themselves. They're trying to police themselves. But if we make this illegal and they're policing themselves and something falls through the cracks, they're trying to police themselves. But if we make this illegal and they're policing themselves and something falls through the cracks, they're going to get sued. It's going to destroy the internet.
01:03:31
So we have to add this amendment called section 230 to the communications decency act and it passed and it. So you have a law that protects the internet from everything we know is awful. It's not speech, everyone knows it, okay. It's not art, it's. It's gross and everyone knows it. Just, some people want to use it to, uh, play off of a vulnerability that most men have to want to look at that stuff and they want to use it to addict them and make money. That's if you want to know what the bottom line is. That's what it is, okay.
01:04:02
So what happens is we, we pass the the Communications Decency Act with Section 230, the amendment that gives them no liability, and it goes to President Clinton and he signs it in a big bill which was a telecommunications act of like 1996 or 1997, I believe and he signs it and it goes into law. Well, within hours the Communications and Decency Act is held up by a court and immediately stopped, and so they say it's unconstitutional, you cannot protect the Internet, it violates free speech, and it's immediately halted OK. It then goes through a year so it can't be implemented because it's being held up by a judge, kind of like what we're seeing today with a lot of other things that you're seeing in the news that are held up by like one or two judges. It's held up and what happens is it goes to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court turns it down, says no, this is against the First Amendment of free speech. It does go too far, it's too vague. But the amazing thing is it doesn't strike down the entire law and the amendments. It leaves Section 230, the amendment, but it strikes down the entire Communications Decency Act. So it's still called Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, but there is no Communications Decency Act. The law does not exist, but the amendment still exists.
01:05:23
So we have an amendment with no law. I don't know how that's even legal or how that's possible. And the amendment does what it gives tech companies full immunity, so they have no liability. So this is how, from the 90s to today, the prolific mass flood of Internet pornography happened during the Clinton administration of internet pornography happened during the Clinton administration. On top of that, the Clinton administration basically turned down the whole indecency department of the Department of Justice and they don't prosecute anyone, and that's pretty much how we arrived where we are today. So families cannot sue, they have no ability to get defense. If their child dies, it's 100% on them. They have no protection and there's nothing that Facebook, meta, instagram, snapchat or any sort of internet platform has responsibility for. That's where we're at. So that is why it is happening.
01:06:16
So it's important for you to understand that, because if you understand that, you know that anything that happens on the internet by a third-party creator, which is everyone, I mean Facebook doesn't create content. Third-party is creating everything. Youtube doesn't create content. Third party is creating everything. Snapchat, everyone is having third-party content. Even Roblox is getting away with it. Even Pornhub is getting away with it. Even all of the really gross websites, because they're saying, like OnlyFans, we're getting away with this because this is third-party content. This is just someone creating it. It's not our responsibility, we are not liable. We are just the library or the distributor. These people are creating the content.
01:06:58
Feel free to go after them or talk to them. Well, how are you going to? You can't find them. There's no way to talk to them, there's no way to like, there's no way to do some sort of legal. So there's no day in the court for anyone. There's no day in the court and there's nothing. The tech companies are more mad, scared, defensive and angry about than anything trying to impact this amendment called Section 230. And there's nothing there. There's no hill they're willing to die on bigger than that, because it would open the floodgates for lawsuits like you've never seen.
01:07:26
If you knew how many children have died, you can look up the Zuckerberg apology that was there filming it, and you'll see how many families are there holding the picture of their children. The whole room was completely full. Just look up on YouTube Zuckerberg apology. You'll see I'm there in the background as well, and so you'll see there's children all over who have been impacted, not protected, and there's no like real protection for them. And so you, as a parent, have to be very, very savvy, very, very protective, very, very aware that anything goes on the Internet. But that's not fair. That's not how it should be. That's just how it is and this is how we got here.
01:08:03
So the work I'm doing with Nicosia we're that's our number one priority is our number one priority is to reverse Section 230. We need to, we need to repeal that and it actually is. Standing in the way is staffers, lobbyists and a lot of money a lot of money that gets people able to fund their next election, and so that's the work we're doing right now. It's very important. I think we have maybe a year to two years before we can get it done, before we can what's called sunset or repeal Section 230. But now I've got to get people over their own hatred of each other, and so I've got to get them to somehow focus on the deeper problem that the kids getting, you know, just just obliterated and abused online on roblox you're just seeing it on roblox right now. That's been going on for decades, like around a decade we've been fighting that.
01:09:02
So at some point you got to be like I know, I know there's the personality issues or whatever my politics are, but if we can get it through this avenue because before the last administration wouldn't do anything, they weren't doing anything, they wouldn't help us at all Well, I shouldn't say that there were some helps, but we sure weren't getting any help on 230. They had a long time to do it and had a full Congress and a full Senate. They sure weren't getting any help on 230. And they had a long time to do it and they had a full Congress and a full Senate and they sure weren't doing it. Now the conservatives do, or the Republicans, and they are willing and they've already passed the law, the take it down act, and they're working on COSA that's another law, the kids online safety act, and that is bipartisan Blumenthal and Blackburn.
01:09:41
So, yeah, that's if anyone can understand the goal, the motive, the emotion, the passion. And everything I'm trying to do is I don't want your kids or you to find your kids with some sort of abuse problem where they're hurting themselves and feeling so guilty that they have nowhere to go that they start to injure themselves. Ok, that doesn't end well for anyone. And if you knew the moms and if you saw their face, they're not these moms, these dads. They're not sad, they're empty. They had, they're not sad. There's, there's something below sad. There's like crying and sad and like traumatic and trauma, and then there's just vacant and it is they're gone. They're gone, there's, there's lifeless, it's like a body with no soul, and that's who you're talking to and that's what it is. Um, and you, just you don't, you can't, we can't, we can't. It has to stop and so, um, for now, until that law gets repealed and until tech companies have some sort of incentive, because right now they have no incentive, so they just say I'm sorry, there's nothing we can do.
01:10:43
Even porn hub, we porn, I don't knowub. I think this is public information, so I'll do the best I can to obscure it. Pornhub has a case where there is some school in America and I don't know if this is legally able to talk about, so I'll just obscure it, because some of these are still in legal battles and you can't talk to them. Talk about them, but Pornhub has a case where at some school there's a kid and he goes into a bathroom and he films all the girls and he uploads it as a third party and he is protected by Section 230 and it holds up. They're minors and it holds up. Those poor girls supposed to do go after that kid.
01:11:28
Or Pornhub or whatever the bad website is that's allowing that to happen, like OnlyFans or or any of these other bad websites that and just you know we we have had success. We got um Backpage taken down and uh, we got a lot of other nasty, nasty people in jail and and we're suing the brothels in Nevada and we're trying to stop a lot of other bad stuff. But the takeaway from all of this is, as a parent, you don't have the law on your side. You don't have tech companies on your side. They're on their own side and so you've got to be ultra careful or ultra aware and ultra shine a light on it, very, very much verbalize these type of situations so your kids are not blindsided by them.
01:12:04
If you want to show them the movie Nick Mick and CMEC, national center on missing and exploited children that's our sister company that we are basically partners with those are the people who get the um notice every time a child goes missing. We're the national center on sexual exploitation, so we really support each other. They've made the movie no escape room. You can just look it up online, the website. You can go through it with your kids which, and that will put it.
01:12:27 - Janae Daniels (Host)
I'll put it in the link as a link in the. Oh, they're the most wonderful people.
01:12:30 - Andrew Young (Guest)
They're the most wonderful people. Some of them are religious, some of them are not, but they all have the same goal and that is to uh, protect these kids and protect their own families and honestly protect our country. Because these types of problems don't just hurt kids, they hurt their neighborhoods, communities, the future careers that these kids would have, and it spirals into hurting the economy. It spirals. People don't understand the ripples. It ruins their churches. It ruins their schools. It ruins teacher, it really really ruins.
01:13:00
Then the people that watch it can't get it out of their heads. They have addictions. They do worse. It really is a cancer. It's a cancer that has gotten into stage three. We're not at stage four, but we're getting close, where it's finding its place in all of these other areas and it's like growing and growing these nasty little things in these other organs that we have as a country and as a society and a culture, and so it's really just gotten out of control, um, uh, and we're getting to a point where it's where it's becoming so bad that it's causing really bad problems. I don't, I don't want to say that it's a, it's a, it's a deal breaker, but we're getting close to that, um. So anyways, yeah, I hope that helps.
01:13:42 - Janae Daniels (Host)
I think. I think it does Well and and I know as, as you're sitting there talking, I'm like, okay, I need to sit down because I do have kids that you know get on YouTube and they play Minecraft and we try to be vigilant. But as parents, we have got to be more vigilant. We've got to be more aware and and speak frankly with our kids about stuff so that they also know this is real, and to talk about it.
01:14:07 - Andrew Young (Guest)
What you can say is you don't ever have to feel guilt, no matter what you do, just please come to me, because that's what's doing it. It's not their fault. They can't compete against the people who are enticing them. So you don't ever have to feel guilt for this type of thing. And then it doesn't matter if it's me or anyone else who you think it is enticing them, so you don't ever have to feel guilt. And then for this type of thing.
01:14:26
and then yeah it doesn't matter if it's me or anyone else who you think it is. You need to verify in person who you're talking to on a direct message, because they can take your picture and they can. They can make it be like as if it's you. So just don't talk to people who you don't know. And don't talk to people on dms, especially sending pictures or sending information or anything like that you don't know.
01:14:49
It might not be your sister or your friend, they might have just stole the picture of your friend and they're posing as your friend, or that girl is actually just an AI girl. It's not a real girl Like that cute blonde that's super interested in you or whatever, because that's what they're using.
01:15:02 - Janae Daniels (Host)
That's not real.
01:15:06 - Andrew Young (Guest)
And so it's three really, really gross guys in Algeria, and now we have to take the FBI and extort them all or bring them all the way to America to trial. It's very expensive. So yeah, anyways, that's, that's what you want. To some of the things you would like that you should say Thank you, thank you, andrew.
01:15:23 - Janae Daniels (Host)
Thank you so much for taking the time today. I know you are so busy and you anyway with all the things going on, and I appreciate you taking the time to come and speak to me and to all of these wonderful moms and dads who will be listening. Um, thank you, thank you, thank you, uh. Keep fighting the good fight.
01:15:41 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Um yeah, there's a lot of hope. I don't mean to put so much negativity. There's a lot of hope and we are winning. We are winning the arc of truth. It comes back and we're already bringing it back. So don't, don't feel like this is like a negative, like there's a lot of people like me I'm like not even not even close to the best. They're even smarter and even more, uh, determined, and they're winning. They're winning in the courts, they're winning in the laws. They're winning. They're winning in the courts, they're winning in the laws, they're winning in the legislations, they're winning in the schools. So, so, have some hope. Like it is working. We're winning in the tech companies.
01:16:13
I can't say a couple of things, but the tech companies are just amazing things that they want to do to change out of force. But they are changing. We are getting rid of the dirt bags and we're getting rid of the bad sites. We're putting a lot of pressure on the bad ones, like only fans and a porn hub, um, and so it is working. Your, what, your voice is working. The moms we call them the mama bears. Uh, they're, it's working. You just keep on it. Keep on it, keep talking to them. You are winning. It is getting better, it's not getting worse. Um and uh, yeah, so so just just yeah, keep going. It's working in your, in your homeschools and everything you're doing it's working.
01:16:48 - Janae Daniels (Host)
Thank you. Thank you, Mamas and papas, grandmas and grandpas. You are doing so much better than you think you are. You got this and we'll talk next week. Thank you again, Andrew.
01:17:00 - Andrew Young (Guest)
Yeah.
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